<I have read a Dr Phil book, he says a lot of the same things. You can't change your partner only yourself. That 5 day Relationship Rich is on his principles. They have his picture on the web site so I guess he is involved with it. If I could only get W to go to that or Retrouvaille.>


Mike, where or which web site were you, that gave info. on Relationship Rich????? Not one of Michele's seminar's is it???
You are so correct someone has to start the change.
goe easy on W Sometimes I get the impression she would like to turn around and get off road she is on....From what I gather, your W has thought about trying to work things out. Keep GAL, she hasn't closed the door totally yet!
Keep reading DR or DB. they have to be our guidance at the present.
Well H is at it again, now sent a Front door Christmas wreath for our house. Of course under the disguise of business write off. Right! I don't know, I have this awful sick feeling my DB to him is reinforcing we all wil soon just be "best friends". As another Board member stated it so eloquently, "I don't want to be the OW to the OW in my marriage"! ! That says it all so very well. H is coming north for business Dec. 10 so maybe I best talk with a coach and see what my most produtive approach should be. If H is starting to think I am accepting the "best Friends" approach, he'll really hurt me at Christmas. Somehow I have to get a reading on this, one way or the other.
My gut feeling is H must have second thoughts or else he would not be doing this small gift thing he is doing????!! Yet, since he goes "ice" any mention of M or our R my gut says he is doing the gift thing to just smoth things over and move on in ref. to having walked away to OW. anyone reading this post your thoughts will certainly be welcome.
grid, so lost


-Love of dogs, every time I loose a dog to the bridge,part of my heart goes too. Ever time a puppy/dog comes into my life,he gives me a part of his heart. If live my life long enough, in time I'll have the heart of a puppy. -unknown (w/character limit)