It's amazing how similar our situations are. You are right it is not easy to give them the space they want and at the same time try to figure out what we can and can't do or say. They really have us on a string I am afraid. Today I leaned over to kiss my wife on the neck instead of her. She seemed a little taken aback. Why is it when she decides to make a move it is fine but we have to walk on egg shells....yeajh i know, they are the waw. I also think we are on a holding pattern till after the holidays...I guess we are pessimists or realists. One thing about the holidays, it is a pretty emotional time and family oriented. Who knows? Our WAWs may find the holidays tougher than we will. I know that my plan (if things do not look up) is to go semi dark on the days when we will undoubtedly be apart. Like I said that is my plan...don't know if I will be able to go through with it. Time will tell what the future holds but we better prepare ourselves for the worst.