Plank removed from eye, too late for WAW? 8

[Pudmuddle]

well, that's why it's called perception. It's my perception only, doesn't mean squat if you don't want it to.

I get hammered for, from my point of view, being a male brute

These were your words not mine. I'm not hammering, just tinkering with you. Besides I said you were charming!

I agree that you have owned your responsibility, you have made that very clear here. But...have you forgiven yourself?

bhopeful had a really good article on forgiveness: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/forgiveness/MH00131

(I'm sure you've read them all before, but just a good reminder only. )

I remember the first time someone pointed this out to me and I was stunned. I THOUGHT I had forgiven myself years ago(before I came to this site) for the awful things I had done in our marriage, but I really had not, at all. I remember always in the back of my mind, I kept thinking, 'How could I have done THAT to someone I loved, cherished and valued more than anything?' My H sensed this feeling of devaluement (if that's a word) in myself and tacked on right behind me and began to harbor those same feelings for me. And this is where we landed...

I could be wrong, and I know you will tell me , if I am, but this is the same 'vibe' that I pick up from your posts. I'm hoping you can see and understand a different perception, that's all.