Donna--finding herself #20, sans H

[mkultra]

It is horrible to see the final budget. I am also coming up short and my H only wants to decrease support and the painful truth is that he gives me way more than a judge would finalize because my H has made nothing in writing, he made money under the table or in tips, cash.

Re H's denial. Donna he is not going to stop being in denial even if he sees and hears the trurth every day for the rest of his life. It just makes them go deeper into denial and to make up more excuses and get more defensive. It just seems like you are trying to punish him and make him sound guilty. Which of course he deserves but he will stay in denial mode. My dad is still in denial after 30 years. It will never matter enough to my dad or any other dead beat who abandons their kids for a fling. They just do it so they can go on vacation and reminders of responsibilities and obligations just make them happier to be gone. Why would any one want to put up with all that heart ache when they can be on denial vacation. So I just do not know what the benefit of him being there really is. Sorry. It just seems like it is punitive. Like you want to punish him for being an ass. which he is.