Good questions MMF! I guess I sometimes think I know that standing is worth the wait. But I guess hearing the words he said to my daughter about the fact that he did not have a problem with me ... but the problem was that he never liked the idea of marriage. "GULP" How do you overcome that? Deep down I don't think I believe that he felt this way ... but am I just kidding myself? Actually when he first left he said he wanted to have the "perfect" marriage that his parents had. Too bad he didn't think that his kids should have two parents at home like he did. I know, I know ... I have to believe that this is all mlc talk ...