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Husband to me it sounds like she is coming around more and more! I think maybe whatever you are doing it is helping. I think maybe by that letter and being more vocal it has showed her that you haven't given up on her. It sounds like she shared something special with you tonight with where she grew up.

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Thanks, I do see her trying but it always seems to just stop short of being open. Since the letter I wrote her and her saying she "cringed" every time she saw a note or e-mail thinking now what" I have not spoken any R talk at all. Instead I have just gone about my business.I want so bad to hold her and hug her but I don't.
I am torn between thinking she is just stalling time and is doing these things so I do not start R talk. Or maybe she is feeling bad for what happened and does not know how to make the move to..... not really ask for forgivness.......but ...Maybe she might want to start the healing process. I don't know. The Somona meeting is comming up and I am thiking about giving NikkiB my cell phone # to call me when she gets in so I can't chicken out.
I think that this will be a turning point for me. It will be strange talking to a woman face to face without worring about how she will react to what I say.

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No chickening out!! It's gonna be fun... and relaxed, how nice does that sound for a change, eh??

We may even get mkultra out of hiding.. you really can't chicken out if we do that.


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Hey husband - I only just read your comment about friskiness and being poulticed on Penny's thread - boy it made me laugh!!!! Where do you want poulticing honey - or do I need to ask \:D

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Originally Posted By: saffie
Where do you want poulticing honey - or do I need to ask \:D

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Hey Saffie,

It is really interesting not going through live on automatic. Last night after I wrote you I was sitting at my computer and W was making son take a shower (for once) and she came in and asked me if the electric tooth brush was ever going to make it back into our bathroom.
Side note:
I took the toothbrush and a spare head and was trying to see if I could get into a vent on the computer to get some dust out and forgot to put it back.

So here was the conversation

W- Is the electric tooth brush ever going to make it back to the bathroom?
Me- Ya I forgot it its right here. Doesn't Anthony have his own electric tooth brush in his bathroom?
W- Ya but he uses that one and I do sometimes too. (When I bought it back in the days when I asked permission to buy things she said goes ahead I won't use it.)
Me- <not saying anything>
W- Oh what ever.... (This is what W says when she does not want to talk about something)
Me- It's right here... What's the big deal? < My voice a little raised>

W then came over and got the brush and took it to the bathroom.
So now I am sitting there and I thought I should not have "snapped" back at her so I went into the living room where W was sitting to tell her I was sorry. But.... W was on phone talking to her sister about us going to their old house and things about the house so I sat there thinking. W did not seem bothered about my reaction. So I was thinking why am I going to apologize? And I thought and thought and then realized that in a normal situation in a caring partner ship this would be the right thing to do. But..... I am not in a "normal" relation ship and there is a power struggle going on. I have given up all control over to my W and this is not a healthy thing. So I stayed until W was off the phone. We had some little chit chat and everything seemed fine.
So my point is I should not have snapped back at her but then again I can't always be a wimp. I need to be a little hard to get along with so she can back down once in a while. I NEED TO GAIN BACK SOME RESPECT.
After all I am not saying she should be afraid of me but if she thought about me getting angry if she had an affair instead of
"Oh Manuel is a wimp, I won't have nothing to fear if he finds out" maybe it would not have happened.
Do you understand what I am trying to say? I don't want her to fear me but to just realize that Manuel will not just bend over and say "thank you can I have another"
Every action is ok as long as you are prepared to pay the consequences....If you don't have any consequences you are afraid of nothing.....

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Ok all you Leo's here ya go....


Daily Extended Forecast for November 13, 2007

If you find yourself in a bit of a sticky social situation today, just turn on your charm! Your wit is all fired up right now, and it should be pretty entertaining for everyone. You have a way of putting things that no one else can quite keep up with, and it will do your ego a lot of good to deliver a line that everyone laughs at -- and asks you to repeat again later. Your superstar status is growing, so why not nourish it a little bit? Ham it up and enjoy the attention.

And for you Pisces

Daily Extended Forecast for November 13, 2007


Just because someone is out of sight doesn't mean they're out of your mind. A former coworker may reappear on the scene now, and they offer a missing link between you and several opportunities -- including greater wealth and hotter romance. Keep an eagle eye out for unfamiliar phone numbers or email address, because everything isn't as you assume it to be. Sometimes, relationships or other types of connections are circular -- and come back around to make things complete.

Don't know what to make of this one???

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Originally Posted By: husband
So my point is I should not have snapped back at her but then again I can't always be a wimp. I need to be a little hard to get along with so she can back down once in a while. I NEED TO GAIN BACK SOME RESPECT.


I've read in a bunch of places about needing to be more dominant and standing your ground. It does give them more respect for you. I think you need to strike a balance. Probably shouldn't always be unflexible and cocky, but it couldn't hurt to throw it in there sometimes.


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So my point is I should not have snapped back at her but then again I can't always be a wimp. I need to be a little hard to get along with so she can back down once in a while. I NEED TO GAIN BACK SOME RESPECT.


I've read in a bunch of places about needing to be more dominant and standing your ground. It does give them more respect for you. I think you need to strike a balance. Probably shouldn't always be unflexible and cocky, but it couldn't hurt to throw it in there sometimes.


I agree 100 % there is a equal ground that must be met


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The important thing is never be a door mat. I allowed that to happen way too much when things were "good" and have even found myself allowing it to happen now. Standing up for yourself and regaining respect is an absolute must - but yes, it needs to be balanced.


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Ok everyone,

Ihave had my bad days, I have been depressed. BUT.....

If I ever get this desparate please just shoot me.

A man in southern India married a female dog in a traditional Hindu ceremony as an attempt to atone for stoning two other dogs to death _ an act he believes cursed him _ a newspaper reported Tuesday.

P. Selvakumar married the sari-draped former stray named Selvi, chosen by family members and then bathed and clothed for the ceremony Sunday at a Hindu temple in the southern state of Tamil Nadu, the Hindustan Times newspaper said.

Selvakumar, 33, told the paper he had been suffering since he stoned two dogs to death and hung their bodies from a tree 15 years ago.

"After that my legs and hands got paralyzed and I lost hearing in one ear," he said in the report.

The paper said an astrologer had told Selvakumar the wedding was the only way he could cure the maladies. It did not say whether his situation had improved.

Deeply superstitious people in rural India sometimes organize weddings to dogs and other animals, believing it can ward off certain curses.

The paper showed a picture of Selvakumar sitting next to the dog, which was wearing an orange sari and a flower garland.

The paper said the groom and his family then had a feast, while the dog got a bun.


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