To All,

More serious tonight about the children. I need some thoughts from both the ladies and men with children. I spoke to my S11 tonight and he says that OM and WAW being mean to him.

He says that OM pulls him, shakes him like a maniac, last night was thrown on his mattress and had the bedroom door locked and had to go without dinner AND had to sleep on mattress without pillow and covers (they were in lounge and nobody gave them to him).

Has been spanked and kicked in the backside for being naughty.

Yes my son can play up and poke and prod his little brother but my wife says that if she can not handle him, she gives it to OM as they live in his house.

My wife says that OM would not harm the children and never has and she would be the first one to put a stop to it. I said that I would hope so and that I would be the first one up there to put a stop to it for good.

Now what concerns me is that she was not much of a disciplinarian anyway. Now with OM's influence, she is because he seems to be running the show and she is along for the ride.

I have also lost all trust in her because of how she has lied and deceived me for so long. You know how WAS's are when they enter the fog.

I know that you have to take both the WAW and son with a pinch of salt. Is the WAW covering for OM? is the son seeking attention and trying to cause an upset? Do you believe an adult or an 11 year old?

If you believe the adults are you going to miss the true voice of the child that is being covered up by lies and then leave him to this kind of discipline/abuse until something major happens?

Or do you start accusing the adults and land yourself in a very diificult situation?

I am not there and can not prove anything until I see physical evidence on his body. I do not for one minute suspect this man for being an abuser but I sure do not like the way my son is being treated and I know that my son is not an habitual liar, there must be some truth to it.

I do not care what the WAW does to me but I will not let anyone treat my children without respect.

Maybe just rattled over hearing all this from son tonight. Hate not being there 24/7 for the kids.

Any advice as to what to do as I do not want this to escalate.


ME 43
WAW 39,
D13, S11, S6, D5
T:19/M:15
Bomb: 07/31/07
OM: 08/15/07
Seperated: 08/31/07