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Joie,

There are 2 masses. Neither is mandatory, but the closing mass is considered part of the program. The saturday morning mass is completely optional. It is scheduled before breakfast. We simply left before closing mass. No one said anything to us about it. The priest takes a turn speaking on each subject during the presentations. Mainly he talks about marriage from what he has observed in his own family, and within his professional experience. He does not present himself as an expert on marriage, just an obvserver. I think he is there not specifically as a Catholic priest, but more generally as a Christian priest. He is also there to take confessions from anyone desiring to speak to him. Our priest was a friendly guy with an upbeat point of view. It was pleasant listening to him even if I am not Christian in belief.

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Hi, guys ...
Well, I've had bad vibes the last few days. I know my H spends time with OW, but I didn't know to what extent. He said he was not sleeping with her anymore. I know, I know, WAS are masters of deception. I caught him in a small lie the other day (concerning OW) and since then, my suspicions have been mounting.

Also, he has not used our debit card AT ALL for over 3 weeks now. That just raised red flags right in front of my face. He has his own credit card and must be using that. It seems like he is hiding something.

Well, he just called me and asked if I got an email from OW. I did. This is what she sent me:

Look in the passenger window of his work truck! Under Minnie Mouse, no, on top, of Minie m ouse,. WE were together that night. He has to make HIS decisions, as to YOU, or ME,by DECEMBER 15, 2007. After that date, he is YOURS, or, MINE. He will always be [daughters] as far as I'm concerned, I only wonder about ME, or YOU! Sincerely [OW]

Not sure what is under the stuffed toy in his work truck. But he has been with her when he told me he would not be. Actually, I'm not as crushed as I thought I would be. Perhaps because I had my suspicions. I think I'm more pissed of that he was still lying to me!!!

I guess she has given him an ultimatum ... decide between her or me by Dec. 15. I think she must have been drinking last night because she kept calling the house. I was not home but D saw the calls come through. H was not home either. D finally answered after the 3rd time and OW mumbled something about a wrong number. Stupid B!tch -- hasn't she ever heard of caller ID!!!

I just talked to H about this and he did admit to sleeping with her. I asked if he enjoyed it (sorry, was too pissed). He said he mostly sat around working on his computer. He also said he was trying to keep peace with her because he needs her for his upcoming court case. (That was already in my thoughts.)

He also said very sincerely before we hung up ILY. That took me back a few seconds. He's said ILY in response to my ILYs lately (which have just been a couple times -- didn't want to go overboard) but I felt like it was just an auto response. This was sincere.

I got in to work early today and up to this point was extremely productive. Now I feel like the entire day is shot!

One question for everyone ... SHOULD I EMAIL HER BACK!?!?

Joie

This entire situation is so F'd up!

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Joie,

get drunk first..... No just kidding. What is up with Minnie Mouse?.

I would not e-mail her why? what would it accomplish?

what do YOU want to do?

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minnie mouse ... it's a stuffed toy that he has in his work van. guess there is something significant under it.

I think you're right about responding to her... but I could really be creative in what I say to her? I could piss her off royally by saying he's given me more than just one night! So many nights I've been cuddled up beside him and she has not. Or, do you know how many times we've had to change the sheets in the last couple of months? Oh yeah, I could send her blood pressure sky high!!

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Absolutely do NOT email her back.
Stick to the high road and ignore her. Right now, your H is mad at her for emailing you and in a mode to "protect" you. If you retaliate and email her, that shifts him into the mode of protecting HER from YOU. Don't get down on her level.

Trust me, he will not find her attractive as she pressures him. Sit back and watch.

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kml has it right. Everything she said is spot-on.

Do not email her back.

You hold the cards right now. Don't sink to her level.

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Joie,
I agree with everyone else's advice. She is pushing him, that will just push him away. Unfortunately, as bad as we hate it, we have to let the affairs run their courses. It sounds as if this will run its course soon.

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Oh, yeah, I am sitting back and watching!

The thing that she was referring to is a hotel receipt. She called him this morning to tell him that she needed it, and told him where it was. He looked for it and said it wasn't there. Then she told him that I may have it. He asked why I would have it, that's when she admitted that she emailed me. I don't think she needs it. I think she is just playing a game.

I don't snoop any more so there is no reason for me to have found it. Unless she was hoping I would see the email last night. But he keeps his truck locked up anyway.

If he had not called me I may not have even noticed the email as it was in my spam folder (good place for it!).

I won't email her back. I agree that it will take me down to her level. No way will I do that. I know he has already seen the unattractive side of her, this is just the icing on the cake. I only hope this doesn't get much uglier. He just called me to say she is ignoring his calls...

Stay tuned for more of the 'as the world turns', JoiedeVivre soap opera! I find this all to be so surreal...

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SHE IS CRAZY!!!




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She sounds not only crazy but desperate - how attractive!!!!!

Saffie


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me 46
H 46
M in 1986
D20,D18,S16,D13
H's A 01/05 to 07/06
H recommitted to M 07/06
renewed vows 09/06
Going from strength to strength
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