CVA - Not sure I have figured anything out?

[Heimlich]

Hey, CVA, have only skimmed a bunch of your stuff the last few days, but would have to agree with Nomo's thought about detachment/space.

If your M is going to turn around, it's only going to come when you back off from your W, take the kids for days at a time, and stop taking care of her and things around the house.

And, you are equally in the driver's seat on the terms of the D as your W. If you don't want your W to move, want to have joint custody of your kids, whatever -- fight for it. Forget DBing when it comes to what you want with your kids. I was/am very fortunate in that my W knows that I'm a good Dad and had no desire to fight me for full custody. Not everyone is as fortunate. If you're not, and you want as much time with your kids as possible, effe her and fight for it.

And yeah, Puddle and sexy undies -- go figure, eh? Our earth mother is sexin' it up.

BD