Hi AmyC, read your post earlier and I am praying desperately for my W to come to her senses. As I have said before, if anyone is deeply involved with their faith, no one can tell me that having an A and such does not cause them big time problems at church. My W is now at the point where she doesnt want to be seen with me at church, and when I go by myself, everyone is constantly asking where my W is. I tell them that she likes to go to early, and I like to sleep in. So now I am covering (maybe lying would be more correct)for my W. Still trying to do my DBing, GAL, and 180's. Have to tell you that we babysat the 7 month nephew of my D's boyfriend, on friday nite and we had fun. It is tough to try to give my W space when these things are going on. It is hard trying to spend time with my kids, as both are in college and tend to have their own lives now. But I think my S knows something is wrong with his mom, as we went for a walk on Sat and he asked what has happened to her. All i could say was that she is not the same person she was 6 months ago. I think he knows more than he tells me, and it kills me to know that my W is destroying the whole family for her little bit of fun. Will try to post later on my MLC thread. Thanks