[quote=SingleAgain Alright Buddy, I'm going to take the gloves off. You reek of desperation. Don't fool yourself into thinking she doesn't either. That is not attractive. Nothing you are doing is attractive. I see two options for you. 1)You are going to blow everything to hell by trying to slice the bread your own way or 2)you can begin to look at this logically rather than emotionally and get yourself together. Now choose. [/quote] I know that I am desperate and I am trying to stop acting like that. What do you mean when you say "Don't fool yourself into thinking she doesn't either". I want to be attractive to her again and I know what I am doing isnt helping. I would rather choose your second option..It's not about what I want anymore, she wants a D and then she should have it..Is this what you are saying?