SR- i too have become very discouraged by marriage counselors. i did use the DB counselor 3 times (mine was jodi) and found it helpful. i believe it's worth a shot, and if you and your wife could counsel separately and together, your wife might find being honest with an annonymous person very comforting. i know i did.
when you are ready to see someone in person, i would highly recommend a Christian counselor, even if you are not a religious person. i've found that they are the only conselors that will truly work with your goal of helping save your marriage, and most will leave out the Biblical stuff if you ask them too.
SR, MWHGC, Old Fool, it's good to know you guys are still out there. i had to leave these boards alone for a while and GAL
