how do you convince them otherwise
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You can't. Well, in a way we did have talks, in which he'd always ask me "but why do you want me back? I wouldn't want me back?" or "it is too late, too much has happened" all the while I'd tellhim that I married him for better and for worse, that he had given me so much love in the past years that how can I not wait out this storm, that I loved him regardless all that had happened, that I too messed up.

About dinner on sat. wait until tomorrow to ask him again, after all, you can't put all your plans on hold for him, make your own plans without being too accomodating, just b reasonable.
It could be that today he is either busy or tired or has no questions for you. Just relax, don't get hang up on him and what he does do or not do.

Hugs)))) Ss are not easy, it is ok to be sad, but don't wallow on it for too long. Well, you can't have a usuar R because he just doesn't live there, it is just more convenient to talk over the phone, do yourself a favor and dont' analize every detail or you'll drive yourself crazy.

Who knows what his struggles are, but I'm sure this is not easy for him either.

I never asked any questions about my H's appartment, just some general questions, my H didnt' want to talk much about it either, personally I was too hurt to show some genuine interest about the place, I was just hoping he wouldnt' stay there long.

Things are the same, H still unable to give the affection I need, and I promised i wouldn't have expectations of him, so we r still trying to be civil with each other.

hope u feel better hon)))))))


Be not afraid...I will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten Joel2

30something
2kids
survivor of S, MLC, A, D
I have peace in my heart, at last.