Hey Heim,

Originally Posted By: Heimlich
W called me to see if I could talk her down. Took me about 20 minutes, but got her mostly settled down.


Is this what typically happens if one of the kids is upset when with W? I have to say I'm a bit surprised that W called.


Originally Posted By: Heimlich
Me: You are being a biatch.


Whoops.

Originally Posted By: Heimlich
You keep telling me that you don't want to talk to me and need space. I didn't have anything to say, so I'm giving you the space you want and didn't call for that reason. If you want to change that dynamic, fine, until then this is me giving you space.


I see your frustration: W wants space so you don't talk, then W says "You haven't told me anything" as you're trying to tell her something. I also get that you're not feeling like pussyfooting around with her right now, no "You're absolutely right, hon..." for you.

Heim, I'm not sure I'm in a place right now to be doling out advice to anyone on how best to win back the WAS, so I'll just ask: what's your long-term goal? If it's saving the M, I'm not sure this exchange did anything for you, though it did seem to protect your pride a bit to stand up to her aggressively.

I guess I'd just say if you're done, great. Even if you are, as someone posted to me recently, don't do anything you might regret. Are you proud of the way you handled that conversation? Does the way you responded to W there line up with your goals for yourself?

Maybe email is the way to go right now?

Just some random thoughts. Hope your head's stopped spinning.

Take care.


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