catfan: i'm not pushing for R talks. This was an isolated attempt, after months of none. and it wasnt even strictly a "relationship" talk. it was more of a, "look, we have to talk about issues dealing with our kids... how about we do it in a more productive, adult way?" talk.
My current status: june 2006. Wife ran out and filed D. Finalized Jan 11, 2010, after 12.5 years M. 3 wonderful sons caught in the middle