Separated and W has a BF.

[SallyM]

he's never hit me, let me be clear on that. but he has physically stopped me from leaving a room when I wanted to.

and I am NOT saying you or mark would even think of doing anything at all to your wives. just saying sometimes being smaller can make a person feel more vulnerable, even when not given cause necessarily.

and it could just come down to the fact that they know they are doing something wrong, and are using the fact that you are bigger guys to justify their own actions. not that they are accusing either of you of doing anything, but I swear the stuff coming out of my H makes no sense half the time, so maybe they are in the same kind of fog.