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Nothnig to add to ST and Nomo's logic, but please, please get your H to think of his kids first.

Anybody remember that country song "I like my women just a little on the trashy side"? Funny, funny lyrics.

I'm a candidate for What not to wear except I'd go nuts if they took away my hawaian shirts. Keep losing weight, then get butt pants. That's my goal.

Now, back to the COW and kid dilemma.

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Originally Posted By: Heimlich
Anybody remember that country song "I like my women just a little on the trashy side"? Funny, funny lyrics.


Jerry Jeff Walker tune. I have live and studio recordings on CD!!


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Glad to see you guys keeping up the fashion talk while I was away! Hey CVA, I think I need to see a picture of you in your finest duds before I take your advice!

Re the OW: This is a woman the kids know. She was a friend of mine. They've hung out with her (and H) and her dog, and they love both. Again, H claims they're just friends (and I may be an idiot, but I think I believe him; he's a lot of things, but he's not a liar...lordy I hope I don't have to eat those words).

He's also said that he wouldn't do anything in front of the kids to confuse them, especially before we've talked to them.

It's definitely on my short list of things to ask the C about when we meet her. I'm less concerned about the kids hanging out with someone they know and like already than getting involved with a person H is in an R with. Does that make sense?

He's also thinking about heading back up to wine country with the kids; his folks are still there. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for that one.

Got a call today from someone who's "interested in the car." Sheesh. Would've appreciated a heads-up on that one (H's car, not mine). It's ironic that when I was pregnant with our first child and we needed a new car, H started looking at two-seater convertibles. And now that he's leaving, he'll have to sell it for a kid car. Sigh.

Had a good day today. Listened to my shiny new iPod, Nick Cave's "Bring It On":

So bring it on
Every little tear
Every useless fear
All your shattered dreams
And I'll scatter them into the sea

Amen, my hot Australian friend. (Geez, "hot"--thanks CVA!)

Take care, everyone.

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well that sure puts a twist on things. I don't know still bout the OW. I'm thinking that if has any interest in her as an OW that he shouldn't do it. And about him not lying, you really can't know for sure. I think he still cares about you, and isn't just about hurting you as much as he can, so it is still possible that he is lying just to protect you. I believe that's what my H was doing, or else it was the guilt.

I would still ask him to talk to a kid C about it first if you can convince him.

CVA, thanks for the clarification!

and who said their goal is "butt pants"???? what in the world is that!?!


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Hey Heim!

Originally Posted By: Heimlich
I'd go nuts if they took away my hawaian shirts.


Oh, (((Heim)))!


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Hey, I love me my Hawaian shirts.

I know that COW/OW is someone your kids know and like. However, I have two close female friends, "aunts" that my girls love to death. This is not even a remote possibility, but I'm quite sure that if my girls saw me being affectionate in a male/female way with them that they would be tremendously confused.

Try to talk your H down on this. I think he's deluding himself and probably hurting your kids.

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Oh Puddle!!!
Ye of little faith.
Armani and Brioni suits and cool casual when not for work. Cool tshirts / jeans or ashorts for weekends. I know fashion, trust me. Anything goes with brown. Grey is in this fall!


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Hey Heim,

Not sure what to say about the shirts. You're looking for a special kind of woman, that's all I have to say. ;\)

H says before we tell the kids he would never do anything with anyone in front of them to confuse them. My guess is extended, longing glances might be confusing to them, as would even laughing, sadly, in our case, but maybe I'm giving a 7-year-old's powers of observation too much credit.

I think before I leave I'll mention it to H, see if he's willing to hold off until next week, when we have an appointment.

Hey CVA! I have total faith in *you*, but everyone has different taste. The suits sound nice; "cool t-shirts and jeans" could be anything. What kind of shoes do you wear with the jeans?

I love brown---got me some funky brown striped pants with big ol' wide legs at the feet (see, that's an example of something everyone will picture differently). Okay, how about this: for shoes, John Fluevog. That's my style in a nutshell.

Yesterday H asked if he could have last night (my night to go out), and I said sure, since I'm leaving today. Forgot I'd made dinner plans with my sister. Called him back and asked if I could have 5.45 to 8; he reluctantly agreed (asked me to please be back on time).

I didn't tell him where I was going or with whom, but looked nice and smelled good. He said have fun.

Today he was distant again. I caught him on his way out the door, asked whether he was taking his car or mine to work. (I need his to go camping.) He said his; I asked when he'd be back. I had told him I wanted to leave by 2 (have to drive 2.5 hrs down windy mountain roads, possibly in the rain, and then set up my tent). He said snarkily, "Not by 2. I'll try to make it between 3 and 4," and left.

Now I'm wondering whether my going out has anything to do with his snarkiness. I don't really care, but it would surprise me to think that his thinking I'm "out and about" would affect him. Yesterday he was almost normal, told me about the house he'd seen, etc. Actually now that I think about it, even guessing about this stuff is utterly useless. I'll never know.

And BTW, I left him a note yesterday about the message from someone asking about the car. When I came home last night he'd written at the bottom, "Huh? I'm not selling!" Must've been a wrong number. Imagine.

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Hey Puddle!

Interesting how WAS always has a "twinge" when you are distant regardless of how far away they might be.

I have all sorts of shoes (more than most men apparently). Nothing worse than bad shoes, ruins everything!

Zappo.com is the place to go to get nice shoes for women.

Oh, your ears should have been burning all last night as you were a topic of conversation while I was out w/ Nomo! He is crazy, loco crazy!!! I say that in a fun way of course! Too many red bull's and vodka although I feel pretty good with 3 hrs sleep!

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Hey CVA!

Originally Posted By: CVA
Interesting how WAS always has a "twinge" when you are distant regardless of how far away they might be.


Maybe he does, and I guess that's perfectly normal no matter how he feels about me. Or maybe he's just an ass.

Originally Posted By: CVA
I have all sorts of shoes (more than most men apparently). Nothing worse than bad shoes, ruins everything!


Yeah, this is true. I know about zappo---they even have some of the Fluevogs I love so well.

Originally Posted By: CVA
Oh, your ears should have been burning all last night as you were a topic of conversation while I was out w/ Nomo!


I'm happy to say I was sleeping like a baby. Actually, that's not true. It's the first time in a while I've woken up, looked at the clock, and actually thought about where H might be: 1:45 am and I wake up thinking, "He's having an A." Maybe my subconscious mind trying to tell me something.

Or maybe just you two louts talking about me. Thanks a lot! ;\)

Originally Posted By: CVA
He is crazy, loco crazy!!! I say that in a fun way of course! Too many red bull's and vodka although I feel pretty good with 3 hrs sleep!


Did you guys dance on any tables? Red bull and vodka---what are you crazy? That's a heart attack waiting to happen. Mercy.


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