I live it and dream it.. ugh!!

[SuperDad]

Interesting thread!

Just my $.02:

- It does not matter what you say, they are not hearing right now.

- It only matters what you do.

To wit:

- I told W several times over the course of 3 months that she needed to figure out what she wanted and start pursuing it (either big D or reconciliation, either job or training program, etc.)

- I only got a response out of my WAW when I:
a. stopped putting my paycheck in our joint account and told her I was taking over the family finances (she is a SAHM).
b. invited a female friend and her kids to spend time with me and our kids while W was out of town (visiting her family and OM).

For me the primary lesson of DBing is: Believe none of what you hear and only 1/2 of what you see.

This applies also in reverse A WAS does not believe anything that you say and only what you do consistently over a long period of time!

Happy DBing!

SD