IMC0807 a lot of the message board stuff seemed like just a bunch of men getting together to shoot the sh!t about how bad-azzed and hard-nosed they were.
I had a similar opinion, but if the guys do 25% of what they talk about, that is 15%-20% more than the 5% or 10% they did before reading the book.
Many of the books I read pointed out behaviors I was doing, that were detrimental to the R, so I stopped or cut way back. Some times learning what not to do is more important than doing something new.
GGB I'm thinking there might be a parallel "nice girl" thing, Ther is GGB. Maybe some of Mojo's cow persona ( a couple years ago) fits in here some place.