Sandi, thanks for the response. I have to be very careful not to get too excited about whats happening b/c you are correct that it may change in the future. But i would say that she really didnt start the meds before she began to change a bit. I need to go to the doctor tomorrow for pain in my right shoulder. I have had it come and go for awhile, but now it is starting to extend down my arm. Dont get excited, i am not having a heart attack!! lol! When i take advil, it goes away so i am thinking it might be arthritis or something. When i see the doc tomorrow, i will ask him about my W and if she comes in the next time, maybe he can talk to her about hormone therapy. I know my doctor very well, and he would do that if i ask. I do think that menopause is causing some problems and maybe you gals out there can fill me in on what menopause does to you. Thanks