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Stubborn,

Great idea. I will definately investigate that once I come back off holiday. Only one week to go, so DB to the fore.


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What great news!!! Man, you have done well, and come a long way! I know W enjoyed herself this weekend, good job!

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Pamar-

So sorry I was absent from your thread for a few days. I did check on you...just didn't get a chance to post!

I'm very happy for you. Intimacy twice!! Sounds like things are going well. You're doing an incredible job of taking it slow and not pushing your W. Sounds like she's coming to you and being very concerned for you.

We'll be as anxious as you are to see how Holiday goes!!

Take Care!

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All,

Still nagegd by the fact that she is contacting OP. Suppose that doesn't matter too much in the great scheme of things and I wonder if I should raise it at the counselling session.

Looking forward to the holiday and will use the time to prove to my W that I have changed and the future can be bright.


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OK,

Now I am upset. W couldn't hardly wait until I was out of the house until she was checking her 'secret' email account. I found out as soon as I had returned (from picking up our son) and told her I was dissapointed in her - that's all and there has been little conversation since then.

Her reaction was 'you can't trust me'. Well there is the evidence so how can I trust you.

Going to bed now and will not raise it with her unless she makes the first move. The ball is firmly in her court now - I desperately want to make this marriage work and will continue to pursue that goal.

I will raise this during the counselling session tomorrow and I bet you I get a similar reaction. It will be interesting to see how the counsellor sees it.


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get your anger out. I'd be pissed too, having been in that sitch before! Go kick tree or something where wife doesn't see or hear. It will keep you from venting on her. then she can't say "see, i told you you were unreasonable" or some such nonsense


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stubborn is right. Don't let her guilt turn the situation around and make you seem unreasonable. I am sorry she is contacting OP (only via email, right, they don't see each other). I hate this 'addiction', don't you?

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stubborn/lwb,

Stuck to the game plan and did not bring it up again. I think I will also stick to the positives during Counselling and let W bring up any negatives.

This morning was polite but definately an 'air'. I know it is an addiction and I am trying to see it like that, but sometimes it is difficult to handle.

W will see it as me spying (all I know is she has accessed the website) and not trusting her. I guess it will come out tonight and I will say that I want to trust her, but issues like this and statements like 'I haven't lied to you' do not help. To my mind, the fact that she is trying to hide the fact that she is accessing her emails is a lie.

OK, vent over, PMA for C tonight and lets see where that leads us.


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That was a vent??? Nothing like my vents! ;\)

Yes, its hard to trust when they do things like that. You have a good game plan.

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lwb,

We British even vent with a stiff upper lip.

Well counselling was hard, but went well. W still confused and mixed up, but there is less talk of leaving.

Counsellor explained some things to W that I had (but she took the wrong way) and that was good also. W not happy with me at the moment, but I am practising what I preach - patience.

Didn't raise the internet as it wasn't appropriate for that session; maybe I was just being a wimp.

So rollercoaster is more positive today.


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