Wow.. Lillie, when i saw you replying so fast, i was worried you were still angry. I'm impressed that you cooled off already
Originally Posted By: Lillieperl
... But have you read all those things and really talked to other guys about their feelings when they can physically handle a naked breast or butt and have NO reliable response from their penis?
lillie, i was going to write more details in my prior post, but decided it was long enough. i was going to write, that while I havent had many "in combat" ED type reactions to deal with... I have had many occasions where I have been in the situation of seeing something, or thinking of something, etc, etc, and suddenly been struck with the thought.. "huh.... kinda wierd I dont have an erection right now".
And assorted variations on that.
I personally think that most guys probably have. They just dont think about it much. (I dont dwell on it, either )
oh, and yes i have had the reaction of handling a naked ... and having no reaction. I just didnt worry about it much at the time... because I wasnt expected to perform right then.
if, on the other hand, my wife dumped her naked boobies in my hands/face, and demanded "do me now!", I know that I would feel horrible if I let her down.
So, I know whereof I speak.
[actually, that kinda did happen once and dammit, she never strongly initiated again. sniff...]
Originally Posted By: Lillieperl
Originally Posted By: Dom
That is to say, he may lose, or waver, in his mental "arousal", as a result of the lose of his physical arousal.
This is exactly what I thought I was saying. The mental arousal depends on the fact of the physical arousal.
Actually, that was not what I was saying "depends on", says "if you dont have one, the other will go away". Rather, I would say, that the physical can influence the mental. both positively, and negatively.
What I wish to convey, is that losing the physical, can be a nasty shock, and seriously disrupt the mental... but if the guy is in the right athmosphere, it doesnt have to mean that the mental goes away. It might need a little nudge to get it going after the shock... but if the guy is very comfortable with the gal, it can be quite fine.
PS: oh! I just thought of a specific type of example where i have sex on the brain, but no erection. When I have a multi-day sickness. Sometimes, my mental libido comes back before my physical. Half of me wants to look down there and say, "wake up!" but the saner half is happy, since I wouldnt want to get my wife sick by jumping into things prematurely
There are other situations too, but that's an easy one.
I like "making my wife happy", even if I have no physical arousal. I dont think I was always this way. I think it happened around the time I made the concious decision to try to stop being a selfish husband. Some time around hearing St. Paul's Ephesians letter for the umpteenth time about a husband's duty to his wife.
Last edited by Dom R; 10/08/0711:44 PM.
My current status: june 2006. Wife ran out and filed D. Finalized Jan 11, 2010, after 12.5 years M. 3 wonderful sons caught in the middle