Dom, I agree that a partner who is enthusiastic for sex is more important than an erection TO A WOMAN. After much study of this subject (from the outside, I'll grant you), I'm not sure that anything makes up to a man the lack of an erection. My late husband was completely impotent due to diabetes. NO erection of any kind (until he had penile implant surgery.) Yeah, when he took care of me with his hand or his tongue, it was nice... I liked it. It was sweet. But I used to weep sometimes alone when I thought I might NEVER see a real erection again as long as I lived. Then I met my bf, who, alas, also has ED issues due to heart problems and a lifetime of smoking. I'm sure the universe is laughing at me. A guy who experiences ED has to have a very strong sense of himself to approach a woman sexually.

Have YOU ever experienced ED? If so, how many times? (When I first asked this question on this board several years ago, only one of the male posters responded. It was something men did not want to admit, even on an anonymous board.)

Mr karen STARTS with low, somewhat adolescent, sexual self-esteem (he was only with ONE woman before he married karen at age ~40-- karen, is that right?). And the first time they did it, he experienced ED. Now when they DO do it, he has to be on the bottom... clearly the ED is on his mind. The giggly reaction to references to MB on TV kind of sums it up, don't you think?

Your thought process is good. Your ideas are good. But just gear them to the Real Karen and the Real Mr Karen and the Real Situation and see what you can come up with. Just saying, "he should do this because it's right regardless of how he feels" may be true, but it's not practical.

Back to the drawing board, my man.