Mickey and ALmost Hopeful - I agree about not generalizing about OP, but it is the role[s] that they play in the MLC that interest me. My h is certainly the denial type. In fact s2 commented on just that recently. H cannot understand why any of us are 'upset' by his actions, and the demise of our long and happy marriage, and the break-up of the family. He really can't, it isn't bullsh*t. My sons find this extraordinary, and convinced them that there is something seriously wrong with him.

What I am really trying to think about is whether and in what ways the OP supplies the 'missing pieces' for our WAS MLC. They go for a range of types, and some of the r's last and some don't, but I wondered what the MLCer was looking for in choosing that particular person, or whether anybody would have done .. .

I am pleased that this hasn't turned into a bash the OP thread. i think it shows a lot of self restraint on our parts!!