I just hated the thought of watching D go off with spouse to some other location to spend the night. This shouldn't be happening. But it is and my job is to keep D safe and sane. I can't imagine spouse telling D "I'm not going to live at home any more"...the whole thing makes me sick and it may well happen and I may have to live with it.

pathetic is a good word, not to mention "thoughtless", "narcicisstic", "INFANTILE", "self-centered" and a myriad of others...gutless covers all of those for me! I was talking to a divorced friend last night about how interesting it is to find out how weak our spouses really are. All that bluster and so little real content...infantile...oh well...

I know it must suck to have your husband "foggy" but I'd sell my soul for the OW to be persona non grata...good luck to you, lwb!

I have a shovel and I'm not afraid to use it.
Stubby