tostada: I've been seperated from W since early July. I've spent a lot of time working on myself. My wife has noticed some of the changes and initially reacts negatively. I thought things were going okay, like your W, mine has a tendancy to make impluse decisions, and has been reestablishing a lot of old friendships. After a disagreement over money, she decided to file for divorce (haven't been served yet). I feel I have been pretty good about my DB efforts, but I tend to get down from not seeing any really progress. Anyway I just got out of a real negative rut after hearing she filed and seeing a lot of anger and hostility from her. I have been able to pick myself up again. I don't have a lot of interaction with the W so its really slow going - and patience is probably what I need the most work on. Anyway I'm at a point now where I am really trying to not focus on the R, be positive, work on myself and making sure my kids know I love them. I will say there has been a little progress - I have had some contact with my W this week and all has been civil if not pleasant. I think they say "Baby steps," right?