I'm seeing Dom's POV, but what I'm also seeing is a general feeling of negativity towards any of his suggestions without much in the way of any alternative ideas. (and I'm not singling out anyone in particular just a general feeling I'm getting from the board). I feel Karen is here for much the same reasons that many of the rest of us are here...we're looking for something, anything that might help us in our situations. I could be wrong, but divorce does not really seem like an option that Karen is willing to pursue so why not try to make the best of what she is willing to pursue...her marriage ;\)

Maybe Dom's suggestions will work, maybe not. I guess we will never know unless we try them. I don't have any reference in front of me so if this is a little off, forgive me... Michele mentions in one of her books (maybe all of them??) that if your trying something and it doesn't seem to be working, a common mistake made is to try "harder" instead of try "different."

I know from Karen's posts that she is trying and I feel for her as I do for the rest of you. It's frustrating !! We try and try and try but we don't really seem to get anywhere. The way I see it, we can try "harder" and then gripe and bitch and moan about it or we can try "different" and see where it leads..... \:\)

Thanks Dom, I've pulled some stuff out of your posts to Karen that I'm going to give a whirl at my situation and see what happens \:\)

"If you can't lick em, lick em" - Ted Nugent