Over lunch I sort of came to the following conclusion:
If I approach getting my own place by saying "I am looking at a couple of places that if I can fix up, we can make some money on....basically buy and flip idea...that gives me (i) someplace to spend my time other than at our house (ii) I like doing stuff like this (iii) allows me to put it as a joint decision rather than a final..."this is what I need now" kind of thing.
There are 2 houses I am looking at that fall in this category. I have actually floated this concept with no real negative reaction on the monetary front from W although I suspect she now knows I am thinking about more permanent digs.
Good time to buy too, lots of foreclosures, interest rates down etc.
C
Me: 46 Wife: 39 D: 13 S: 11, 9, 7 Bomb 3.2.07, Sep Same Day, D papers 11.1.07 Current Status - Wants to take me through Discovery, I will go to prison first.
My gut instinct was to say stick with the "this is what I think would be best for me" statement, but now I think your idea would be good too. It still gives W the space to see what a D would really be like, gives her time to see you doing okay without her, and gives you what you and the kids need (a place for you guys to spend time together w/out the W around). All of this without pressure on the W and under the guise of "joint decision and benefit".
Thanks GD. I dont think I had any wisdom at 28, I wish I had a do over. If I only knew then what I know now (or even 8 mos ago!).
C
Me: 46 Wife: 39 D: 13 S: 11, 9, 7 Bomb 3.2.07, Sep Same Day, D papers 11.1.07 Current Status - Wants to take me through Discovery, I will go to prison first.
Sorry, what I meant to imply was good words of wisdom from a 28 yr old!
Me: 46 Wife: 39 D: 13 S: 11, 9, 7 Bomb 3.2.07, Sep Same Day, D papers 11.1.07 Current Status - Wants to take me through Discovery, I will go to prison first.
Looooong way to go on being wise, CVA, but thanks nonetheless. Would love to get to a place where I'm both wise and sexy, but still don't think that will draw the W back . However, since you made the comment, I'll say this:
"If I have been great, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants." Thoreau
Nothing inherent on my part -- just a "quick study" as Nomo puts it!
MMMM, good quote Pretty much what I do all day is surround myself with people much smarter than me.
C
Me: 46 Wife: 39 D: 13 S: 11, 9, 7 Bomb 3.2.07, Sep Same Day, D papers 11.1.07 Current Status - Wants to take me through Discovery, I will go to prison first.
"I am looking at a couple of places that if I can fix up, we can make some money on....basically buy and flip idea..."
What about trying to get her to feel like part of the decision & using just a slight word change:
"What do you think about the idea of buying a place as an investment to fix up and flip & make some money on. It will give me a fun project to work on and a better place to stay while I am continueing to give you the space & time you need. What are your thoughts on that? Would you like to look at the 2 places I found?"
Me: 46 Wife: 39 D: 13 S: 11, 9, 7 Bomb 3.2.07, Sep Same Day, D papers 11.1.07 Current Status - Wants to take me through Discovery, I will go to prison first.