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FLTC and no_hill,

Brothers Amen! I made a commitment, I took a vow and I meant every last word of it down to the very essence my my soul. I won't quit, I will not walk away, I will not back down or turn my back. My commitment and vow is as much a part of me as my soul. The vows I took and said were a vow to her, to us, to me and to God. Those vows represent me and who I am.

As for finding someone who knocks my socks off, I already found her. Right now she's a lost soul and needs to find herself. I pray for her each day and my commitment right now is to help her find herself again. I found me again in all of this thanks to her and so through love and commitment I will continue to work to help her.

As for those of you who've served our country and our belief system, I can only imagine how commitment and love runs deep in your soul. You truly amaze and inspire me.


If we really want to love, we must learn how to forgive. - Mother Theresa

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Thanks CF and Hill. Got a note from w. today after I emailed her. I saw from my D16s portal from her school that my w. made to have an MRI. D16 can only write from her school via the portal. It scared me so I emailed her. Pinched nerve. She wrote me a note back within a half hour. No hidden anything. I'm too tired for that.

Like I've said before gents, I get a vote in this, but my vote doesn't count. Below is another article from the Baltimre Sun about one of our convoy escort companies. Truly remarakble valor. We expect so much out of 19-25 year old kids and most of the time they get it right. we lost a soldier last week in an accident. An armored security vehicle overturned and sheared the turret off, killing the 19 year old gunner. A life that never really lived. Heros one and all. Although we changed our shirt about 5 times about why we're here, all of us hate to think that we'll jsut pull out and let this thing implode. Anyway, a good read to see what our kids on the roads do every night. THANKS AGAIN GUYS FOR CHECKING IN ON ME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.


Baltimore Sun
September 23, 2007
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Convoy Traverses A Perilous Route

A team of guardsmen carefully negotiates an Iraqi desert road where bombs could lie hidden at every turn

By Matthew Dolan, Sun reporter

FORWARD OPERATING BASE Q-WEST, Iraq--Along a desolate stretch of two-lane road crossing a sun-bleached desert, the team in Staff Sgt. Michael Thompson's scout vehicle spots the problem first.
To the untrained eye, freshly packed asphalt filling a large pothole would be nothing unusual. But the Maryland National Guard team knows the hole was empty two days before, so the road repair signals trouble.
Five hours later, Thompson and the rest of his convoy security team discover what lies buried below: a propane tank filled with 50 pounds of explosives attached to a remote detonator.
Looking for telltale signs of hidden roadside bombs makes daily convoys from this remote American military base in northern Iraq numbingly long and frustratingly slow. Every pile of suspect garbage, every eerily emptied-out town, every square foot of new asphalt without a military engineer's "safe" mark, saddles them with risky delays.
This day's mission is supposed to be completed in 12 hours. It will take 36.
After notifying home base about the suspicious road repair, the Maryland Guard's first move is to maneuver their gun trucks on perfect cue to protect the supply convoy from attack. Then members of 2nd Platoon, Bravo Company of the 1st Battalion, 175th Infantry Regiment confront the most pressing questions.
If there is a hidden bomb, where is the trigger man? Is there a single bomb or a clutch of them? For the guardsmen laboring to reach a military base 37 miles away, no one has enough answers to move on.
The grueling convoy mission offers a glimpse of the threats faced by Maryland guardsmen - ordinary folks including a Starbucks manager, a bricklayer and a slew of college students. It has been two months since the group of more than 100 guardsmen assigned to Bravo set foot in Iraq, and they have become accustomed to the war zone's tension and danger. Still, getting a mission "outside the wire" makes them feel like the combat infantrymen they spent years training to be.
The first of the day's briefings begins at 5 a.m. with Lt. Vincenzo Dray Taylor. In civilian life, the 24-year-old from Columbia is a cook at the Bertucci's restaurant on Snowden River Parkway. He's known to break into song for no reason and think up word games to keep his crew from falling asleep on long trips. He has an easy smile and a quick laugh. But today he is a platoon leader of more than 20 men, and he is about to leave on his sixth mission.
In the predawn darkness, Taylor sketches out the route to Forward Operating Base Sykes. They'll only take a handful of roads - the exact routes are classified - but little attention is paid to the small towns and villages along the way. Experienced soldiers instead look for landmarks, Iraqi army checkpoints and road conditions to check for any changes that might spell trouble.
Taylor describes the order of his platoon's trucks - Humvees, tow trucks and armored security vehicles, v-shaped hulled trucks that look like tanks on wheels - assigned to guard the shipment of fuel, water and other goods.
He warns his soldiers of the dangers ahead. The sight of children waving from the side of the road usually means a reduced chance of attack from an improvised explosive device, or IED. But "if we don't see anyone out," Taylor warned, "we've got a problem."
He relays a description of a suspected al-Qaida in Iraq leader, believed to be in the Mosul area. But the description is so generic - brown hair, short mustache and not much more - that his platoon lets out a little laugh when Taylor tells them to "be on the lookout."
Taylor also positions each of the trucks' crews to stand in their order in the convoy. The lieutenant tosses out scenarios - a break in the convoy, a vehicle coming under fire - and the soldiers walk into flanking positions as if they were driving their gun trucks.
A half-hour later, soldiers join military contract truck drivers in a large hangar, where they sit in three sections of bleachers for a final briefing. Every soldier's and trucker's name is called. Their responses are both efficient and a grim reminder of the risks that lie ahead: the last four digits of their Social Security numbers followed by their blood types. But the true wake-up call comes moments later when briefers play a video from Baghdad.
An escorted convoy is seen on the screen snaking down a road when a dump truck suddenly pulls alongside the lead military vehicle. Seconds later, the truck explodes, and the entire screen is engulfed by a giant cloud.
"I just want you to be mindful of that kind of danger - suicide trucks filled with explosives," the briefer says as Bravo soldiers gasp at the sight.
One stretch of their route is considered a "Tier 1 IED site" - likely laden with buried bombs.
As the briefing concludes, soldiers load up on their own fuel: handfuls of energy bars, highly caffeinated power drinks, sugary cereals, bottles of water and Gatorade.
The weather report calls for a high of 108 degrees. Military gun trucks are air-conditioned, but that hardly matters in a Humvee with a hole cut in the roof for the gunner. Required gear - Kevlar helmet, chest armor with shoulder protection and side ceramic plates, ballistic glasses, kneepads and fire-resistant Nomex gloves - only increases the discomfort from the heat and cramped spaces as the day grows long.
They set out just after 8 a.m., and for a while the journey is routine. Taylor's Humvee jostles a bit to find its place in the convoy. The gunners "go red," releasing the safeties on their weapons as they roll out of the gate. Sgt. Stephen Szabo, a 25-year-old student from Brentwood, jokes from another vehicle that his truck is not only "red" but "nuclear."
Soon, two trucks filled with Iraqi police officers appear in the distance, and their arrival is radioed down the line of military vehicles. The license plates of the pickups are checked against one from a recently stolen vehicle in Mosul.
At 9:33, the first real problem appears. Lead scouts notice the pothole newly filled with asphalt, directly across from two piles of rocks in a culvert.
"Do you see any tracks?" Taylor asks, referring to signs of vehicles.
His scouts aren't sure, so they look further.
In a half-hour, a decision is made. The site will be blocked off, a senior commander at Forwarding Operating Base Q-West notified and a call placed for help from the Army's explosive ordnance detachment (EOD).
The wait begins. An hour passes.
"EOD is on the way," Taylor tells his platoon. "No ETA."
Another hour passes.
The soldiers don't get out of their vehicles except to relieve themselves on the pavement. Helicopters swoop overhead, making whooshing sounds as they pass low and fast. An acrid whiff of diesel fuel fills the Humvee. Temperatures exceed 100 degrees. Nobody takes off his body armor. Uniforms become so soaked with sweat that they will stiffen like cardboard when they dry. The radio grows quiet.
Taylor's gunner, Sgt. Robert Feliz, 27, of Silver Spring, says he is losing feeling in his left foot and stamps it on the Humvee floor below him. The former Marine - and current Montgomery College student - has been baking under the desert sun, standing in the open-air turret; his only relief comes from sitting in a small sling with no back support.
Taylor takes out a list of Arabic terms and begins to study. His driver, Spc. Mike Connolly, a college student at Salisbury University who has served his last two deployments in Iraq with his father, scribbles himself reminder messages on the windshield with an erasable pen: write letters, scrap metal, Mass on Sunday.
At 12:25 p.m., a new report blinks on the lieutenant's mobile computer messaging system. The long-expected arrival of the explosives team will be delayed further: They are still 10 minutes from leaving Q-West.
Forty-five minutes later, two Army helicopters providing air cover for the convoy radio the lieutenant to check in.
"Did you search this guy out here with the sheep?" one of the helicopter's crew asks Taylor.
"Nah, we just had eyes on him," Taylor said.
"Well, he's in a pretty good lineup position for a detonator."
Someone chimes in to ask if Bravo brought an X-ray machine to examine the hole. They did not. With the shepherd the only person visible for miles, two scout trucks break out of the convoy and, with helicopters circling overhead, close in on the Iraqi tending to his sheep. The report back isn't encouraging.
"He said he don't have anything on him," one sergeant calls back, reporting that soldiers failed to find a detonating device. "We're going to check the path he came to see if he dropped anything."
Three armored vehicles from the explosives teams finally arrive. Soldiers expect to wait for these teams because of the high demand for their services.
Using a remote-control robot, they place charges around the suspected IED site and prepare for a detonation. But the first attempt at 2:17 p.m. goes off with a dull thud. Twenty-five minutes later, they try again.
Again, a thud, but this time the asphalt has been peeled away, exposing the bomb below.
A third try at 2:54 hits the IED. The jolting explosion sends a giant column of brownish smoke into the sky. Soldiers take out their digital cameras to videotape the sight.
"Wow, what a propane tank," Taylor said, who sings some lyrics from the Green Day song "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)."
"You sing Green Day, sir, but it's like Frank Sinatra," teases Feliz, his gunner.
"Sergeant Feliz, do you need a straw?" Taylor joshes back. "I mean, you're really suckling up now."
Seven hours outside their home base but no more than 10 miles down the road, the Humvee crew hoots with laughter.
Finally, the convoy can move on, crossing from open desert where sheepherders have tiny shacks to small villages of mud homes with satellite dishes. The small number of villagers worries Taylor, who says, "There are not a lot of people out."
"Yeah, not at all," Feliz responds.
Connolly chimes in: "Well, it's Friday."
"Yeah, like a church day for them," Feliz says.
"Plus it is close to happy hour," Taylor deadpans.
But the next town brings out more people and traffic along the road increases - families packed into four-door sedans, uniformed Iraqi soldiers riding on the back of an open, 5-ton truck, Iraqi police standing in the bed of a Toyota pickup, oil security guards dressed completely in black, masking their faces with scarves and clutching AK-47s.
An hour later, the landscape becomes more urban. Houses are larger, boasting columns and walled courtyards. The convoy stutter-steps its way along the route, with only brief stops compared with the morning's five-hour standstill.
Almost at its destination, a truck in the convoy breaks down and needs to be towed into the Sykes base. The delay almost forces the guardsmen to miss dinner, but the dining hall stays open late for them. Ravenous, they eat just before 9 p.m. Most will even get a mattress and air-conditioned room to crash in until morning.
But Bravo Company Capt. Matthew DiNenna, a Baltimore County resident, is visibly frustrated with the day. He pulls Taylor aside before bed and relates some of his displeasure, wondering why better information for higher command could not have been collected about the location and description of the IED found by the convoy.
Often standing apart from his men, DiNenna has a manner that is blunt and, at times, gruff. He has two priorities: completing the mission and keeping his soldiers safe. Those who don't perform up to standard will hear about it. "I'll be satisfied only when Iraq is at my back," he says, referring to the end of the deployment next year.
Later, the 37-year-old captain says he thought the communication led by Taylor during the convoy ride was much improved but felt he needed to push his young lieutenant to reach new heights.
Taylor, looking exhausted but still smiling, elects to sleep in his Humvee. It's so he'll never be far from the radio he has listened to for the past 12 hours.
The weather is changed by 7 a.m., with wind whipping up sand that coats every exposed body part. Gunners wrap clothes around the lower parts of their faces, looking like old-time bank robbers. All of them wear goggles, but they squint and wince when the gusts smack too hard.
The convoy is supposed to pull out at 10:30 a.m., giving drivers enough time to get their new loads of fuel, water and other supplies for Q-West. But conditions are now Category Red, meaning limited visibility on a route prone to insurgent attack.
Medic helicopters are unable to fly because of the weather. Without such air support, the convoy's departure is delayed. Connolly, familiar with such stops and starts after two tours in Iraq, pulls out a well-worn copy of Edgar Allan Poe's "The Tell-Tale Heart."
Good news arrives at 11:30: The helicopters can now fly. By noon, the convoy is rolling from the gates of Sykes toward Q-West.
But trouble crops up 90 minutes later with a report about an IED attack against one of the private truck drivers. Sgt. Stephen Engelmann, a 22-year-old college junior from Hagerstown, sees the explosion's plume of smoke and relays it through the rest of the military gun trucks. But the guardsmen have difficulty pinpointing the attack's time and location because private truck drivers not working for an American contractor do not have radios to communicate with the military during convoys.
Quickly, the convoy is stopped, and the damaged supply truck inspected. The cab has relatively minor damage, and the driver is unhurt. Taylor gets out of his Humvee to verify the hit but is unable to establish firmly an exact location and time of the attack.
The rest of the trip flows smoothly until just a few miles from the gate. The Humvee checks out a carload of Iraqi civilians and a man standing near a cell phone tower. Nothing suspicious is found after a search of the men, and a call for reinforcements from Q-West to investigate further is denied, essentially ending the day's mission.
In a swirling sandstorm back at Q-West, the men decamp from their vehicles as the sun sets, huddling up for a quick recap of the day. Following military tradition, leaders describe the highs and lows of the mission; then everybody can add his two cents.
"Good eyes on the scout," Taylor says of Thompson's vehicle and the crew's spotting of the first IED. "The triggerman could have been out there."
He also compliments the tactics during the return trip that secured passage around a blown-out overpass that had been bombed.
DiNenna addresses the group at the end, publicly praising its officers and sergeants for improving their communication and praising their soldiers' watchful eyes.
The briefing wraps up after 8 p.m., but the day is not done for Bravo. Exhausted but safe, they return to company headquarters for another three hours to check over their vehicles and weapons for problems. It is after 11 before most of them hit their beds to sleep, almost 40 hours after they first reported for duty.

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Brings back happy memories but I was on foot. Frankly prefered it over your gig. We could definitely swap stories over a lemonaid in Andbar

Well passed the physical. Eliminated enough pizza and Ice Cream (lost 3% bodyfat in 4 weeks) to rejoin. Bad news is had a knee exam thought a little artho buff job would allow running again but was told it was good as it's gonna get. Hey i do 55-60 lbs weight walking in soft sand for 6 mi (thus eliminating those beloved pizzas (buy guys)).

Cat I believe you are on the right track. You can stand up to the Man at the end and state you did your best.
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I was so exhausted this afternoon, I just had to go back to my hooch and grab a nap. The pace here is blistering but the activity is energizing. As I lay on my rack, half way between sleep and being awake, I thought of some things that I just want to put out there.

Since we spearated in September 06, there has been no discussion of any kind regarding our M. It's still 9 months until I can leave Iraq, and I've already been gone for 9.

How do I ever bring up asking her what her intentions are?

She told me in December of 2005, after an unsuccessful Retrouville (She sat with her arms crossed, looking like she hated the world): "She would not file, but would instead wait until we WERE BOTH IN THE SAME PLACE. That of course, meant "until I was ready to divorce her as well"

Over the next three months, she was miserable and horrible to me, despite my trying to do everything to please her. She would just leave the house when she and D17 would argue, which ofetn turned violent and go to her mother's grave and sit for hours smoking....which she had quit when she met me (even began running and winning races). She would say that I wasn't taking a strong enough stand with D17, but anything I di was wrong, too tough, too lenient.......whatever. In March of 06, many of you may remember I slowly unravelled, and I tried to check out with medication. I have never been so low in my life..awful....she then agreed to try and work on M. but I didn't improve in stability according to her timetable, and we separated in September.

It seems to me that she wants this to be a "joint decision" probably so that the kids will not continue to blame her for this whole separation, possible divorce....the kids know only she wants this, and I never tell them differently.

I don't think I can ever agree to a D., but when I go home, I'm susceptible to her awful treatment again. She was absolutely hideous (look up some of the stuff around Christmas last year on my former threads)

While her behavior may be hideous, I don't want to "be in the same place as her" EVER, for a variety of reasons, but especially because I don't think kids are resiliant, and I don't want mine to be without a family, and oh yeah, I made a commitment.

I still have a long 9 months to go, and in these situations, sometimes time and distance can heal, but I don't ever want to made to feel guilty because I don't want to agree to a D., but her behavior, if the same, is almost as damaging.

She doesn't want to be the "bad guy" in the kid's eyes, and I will never tell them that I want a D. She wants me to sign on for her plan, but I won't.

I just say to them (the 15 and 16 year old) "I was not the husband to your mom I should have been",(Advice from COG) but I will never ever say I wanted a D. On the other hand, it's almost like I'm forcing her to stay married? Does that make sense?

Any thoughts on where to go if (when!) I return to this same behavior?

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I wouldn't bet on the fact that when you return you will return to the same ole thing. A lot of time has past so far and there is a lot more to go. In that time so much has happened and will happen there is absolutely no way of speculating on what it'll be like when you return.

So what to expect? The best thing is to have no expectations of your wife. Expect to move on with your life, being the best FLTC you can be, being the best father you can be. In other words only expect to control and worry about you and your kids. Let your wife worry about herself. Any worry you have for her you need to turn over to God and let him handle it for you.

As for your kids, focus on being the best father you can be for them. That's all they want from you, your love, your support, your leadership. Sure at times it's hard and you have to be the bad guy but parenting isn't always fun and you definitely know that. But if you do it all with love then in the end it'll all come out good.

Now reading back to some of your recent posts about interactions it does sound like your wife is softening ever so slightly. That's a good sign if there ever was one. It may not lead to the ultimate goal but it might lead to less stress, less conflict and less pain. So that too is a positive.

Bottom line right now, you can't worry about all this stuff. You have a hell of a lot of other things you need to be worrying about right now.


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How do I ever bring up asking her what her intentions are?
You don't, ever! You'll know her intentions, and in any case, her intentions, today, will change over time, just like the rest of us. We intend to do many things, but "I hear tell, the road to hell is paved with good intentions", .
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Any thoughts on where to go if (when!) I return to this same behavior?
Now hopefully you are not out there leading troops and fighting a war that you do not think they can win. I'm betting that there is little doubt in your mind that you CAN win, given the proper political climate of course.

Anyway, you need to carry that same kick ass and take names attitude home with you. You are a warrior! A [censored] kickin, fearless, smart, and tactfull soldier. You have all the tools and training you need to get the job done. But do you have the heart?

Do you have the balls to stand in front of your W, look her fearlessly in the eye, and demand her to be respectful to you? That's a good first step my brother. I'd spend the next nine months training for that one simple sentence, statement, and stand. Watch some old John Wayne movies, "The Quiet One", is a good one. Duke's brovado is inpsiring.

You are NOT at her mercy, she is at YOURS! You do not ask what she intends, you tell her what you intend, expect, and demand. She's been rude, disrespectful, and down right cruel to you, and you've always given in to her. You honestly believe the BS she feeds you about how worthless you are, how inept you are, how stupid you are. Well here's a surprise, she's right! You have been all those things because you've believed her, and accepted it. Swallowed it hook line and sinker.

Time to wake up FLTC. You're choking on BS. Your W is sick, and she needs a leader. She's been taunting you, prodding you, and poking you to wake up and kick her ass back into line, but you've been running and hiding.

Well she's in for a little surprise when you get home my friend. You'll not take one more word of her crap. When you are around she'll be polite and friendly or guess what? You'll be the one slinging fire. I suggest you start practicing, honestly find a friend to practice with. And start training for battle!

God Bless,

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Need to get some feedback on the above when you guys get a chance. Called home to discuss an incident re: D14. She apparently had some kids at the house on Friday, and there was alcohol. w. had S9 at a game and got home earlier than predicted. OOPS.

I called to talk to w. about incident and first asked about her pinched nerve. I heard about it from D16 who's still in Utah at a school for troubled kids. Long story, but if you've followed this saga, you'll rememeber. Anyway, I ask how her neck is, and she corrects me that it's her arm that's number from the pinched nerve in her neck. I replied that that must be painful, and she reponded in her 2001+ attitude of not allowing me to be sympathetic to her at all, still not forgiving me for being away with the Army in 1994 when she had some major reconstuctive surgery and almost died. (It was not a good move on my part...but 13 years ago. She has had two subsequent operations where I was there for it all).

Her response was "It is what it is" and immediately moved off the subject. It's all part of the summer 06 behavior..dressing in a locked clost, locking the bathroom door when she showered so I couldn't enter, piling 40 feet of pillows between us in bed, refusing to turn the bedroom TV off so I could sleep.......I agreee with COG...maybe she doesn't want to give me flase hope. Got it! But this is still such odd behavior.

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Who knows. There's not telling what's going on in her mind. The best thing you can do is keep communication all business because it seems any other subject just comes across as pressure or something to her.

So what happened with D14? How'd that all pan out?


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"It is what it is" is another one of the those catch-all phrases. It can mean I'm through talking about it ( like 'Whatever!') or it can mean I accept the reality of things. We talk so much in cliches any more that it's hard to know what anybody is talking about. We were joking about this at my g-son's b-day party yesterday!
What we're all doing here is not exact science. We're employing general techniques that give us an opportunity to 'stop the bleeding' so to speak and give us a chance to have meaningful dialog with our spouses when THEY are ready. But I will tell you something for certain: when one half of an equation changes,the whole equation changes. This is immutable Algebraic law. In plain English, if YOU change, the relationship changes.
It has to. That's why we say 'work on you.'
Do you have a relationship with God? I think it's essential that you have one and work on it. You and God together are a tough combination to beat. He will give you strength and get you through this. You have a heavy enough load with the job you are doing. God wants you to give the marriage to Him and let Him work on it, in His time. He does not want you divorced, because He hates divorce (Malachi 2:16). It's the 'other guy' that wants your marriage to go bad.
I was a young Marine alone during Viet Nam. I know your mind is working overtime. It's essential that you take care of you right now, because you're going through this AND you are in harm's way at the same time, something few of us back here can understand.
There are no guarantees and no magic pills, but I started looking to the Lord a year ago and I'm much better for it. I haven't had a breakthrough yet, but they're 'hitting all around me' so to speak, so I know it happens. Seek a closer walk with Him and the miracles will begin to happen. That's His promise.
'Is God a man that He should lie?' I think not. He is faithful.

May He hold you in His hand and keep you safe.

Thank you for your service,

David


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Gents,

Thanks gents. You sage advice has gotten me through yet another day. I appreciate it when you look in on me even though I don't write often to you guys. Tamashii: You've been here a long time as well? How's it going for you?

CF and COG: Thanks bros! You guys have ben with me a long time. I truly appreciate all you guys do for me. I continue to say that O get more out of this board than I did from the $185/hour "therapist"

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