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[saffie]

Firstly - you are assuming she bought them for him. Sometimes we ladies do like to buy ourselves nice undies for us!!!!!

It's a bit like the makeup and getting dressed up thing - we do do it for ourselves sometimes - actually, most times. I can understand that one would assume it is for him but it may equally be for her. Maybe she just wants to feel sexy - doesn't mean she is going any further. Maybe someone at her work is being bought a present by a few girls - there are just so many maybe's.

GISH - look, I tried to end it when my H told me about his A. I was stupid enough to do it AND my kids were around. I nearly got sectioned - I could have lost my children. It nearly killed my parents - I don't know if yours are still alive but if they aren't then think about how you would feel if your son did that?

You have not been on the meds long enough for them to kick in yet.

Do you want to talk? Do you want my email or phone no?

I do feel for you. I have been there. It doesn't help hurting yourself - it won't make your W change what she is doing - honestly. It will drive her further away. My H came back to me emotionally not because I hurt myself but because he saw what I could be again. I managed to get strong and show him the woman he married. The hurting and self harm pushed him away.

Do you want to talk more?

I can be around for a couple of hours now. My H has gone out and the kids are occupied. Please keep typing.

Saffie