Cobra said: "When you say "when people like you, Cobra and others take this tact it does bring up that feeling back up," it sounds to me like there is some shame or other emotion embedded in that statement. So I still think "something is there." If so, what may be required is developing an accurate view of your FOO and how that still affects you. The effects cannot be known until you have the accurate view first. Then all sorts of new things start coming to light. Then you can think about how that might affect the way you feel about yourself and others today."

Sounds to me like fearless is a recovering perfectionist (the nice girl's version of a control freak). Like depression, I don't know that it ever "goes away", only into remission. The battle is constant, and the shame pops up now and again against one's best efforts at differentiation. I do believe this is probably in large part a FOO thing ....

Anyway, you can have a very clear view of all this and still relapse. When you've finally gotten out of the hospital, hearing things like "In what way was it your fault?" can feel like someone slapping a bacteria-filled handkerchief over your face. Nooooooooooooooo!!!! Of course, real world, you have to build up your differentiation immune system to resist stuff like that. But it sounds to me like fearless has (largely) done that.

(((((fearless)))))

Cobra, to hear a clearly intelligent person claim no interest in further growth and self-improvement just makes me sad.


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