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saffie #1209908 09/24/07 02:07 PM
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Hey Saffie!!!
Sent you mail back.




Life's challenges are not supposed to paralyze you, they're supposed to help you discover who you are.
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saffie #1209994 09/24/07 03:16 PM
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Happy birthday, LWB!

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Lwb - Well, Happy Birthday girlfriend. It sounds like it turned out to be a good one. H didn't have to do anything, but chose to. That is good. So what did you get. Have you opened your gifts yet?

About your H coming and going. I let me H do that and for me it work out. It gives them a chance to see how you can get along without them. It also reminds them of everything they would be giving up. Let it happen for a while. You will get to a point to where you will know what you want to do. See how it feels for awhile. You don't have to make this decision today.

You are doing really well GALing.

Take care

Faith


H 48
W 57
M 15 yrs
T 18 yrs
No children
EA 1/12/06
Moved out 3/10/07 & 8/16/07
Back on 5/18/07
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Have Faith #1210177 09/24/07 05:52 PM
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Happy Birthday. : )

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Oh... I can just feel how happy you were.. It was nice, and its also good that you are not reading too much into it!!

Sorry I Wasn't around this wkend.. see my post.. But I wish you a HAPPY BIRTHDAY and I hope you wish DOES come true.

;)TAL


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Oh my gosh! Pages of 'happy birthdays'!!! That is beyond thoughtful. \:\)

Thanks: trying, nocode (twice), Sara, andy, Mark, saffie, and tired. Hope I didn't miss anyone.

Yoyo, and yes. Had a big old Diet Pepsi with all my garbage snacks at the movie.

Morgan, we saw Good Luck Chuck. I still want to see Bourne, but need to watch the second one first.

neph, H even called twice today to wish me a happy birthday and see if I liked my gifts.

Sue, H only stayed at his dad's Friday night. We talked a bit about it last night and he is going to do this every now and then. I am fine with it for now. I did fine, more than fine, Friday night. I was empowered, actually.

Faith, thanks for stopping by. I am fine with H coming and going for the moment. Its what he needs. I set a firm boundary last night that there will be no other people during this separation, that it would be a major dealbreaker for me. He said he wasn't even thinking in those terms. Before the A, I could believe him, now I just hope I can believe him.

Journaling:

Got the girls settled and asleep last night and came downstairs, hit the patio with some beer and a book. H came outside and said he was going to go to his dad's and I said "Ok" in a light tone. About an hour later, (he handn't left yet) he joined me on the patio and we talked for four hours. He said he wanted to spend time with me.

Some talk was light (new job, kids, etc), and some was tricky. We got through it. He told me he is still calling OW from time to time, even though she hasn't taken his calls in a week or more.

M: Do you care about OW?

H: Yeah, I guess.

M: Then I can assume you want her to be happy?

H: Yes.

M: Then, she is choosing to work on her marriage, to make herself happy in that way. By calling her, you are confusing her, and probably making tension for her while she is trying to do this.

H: You are right. But I am not calling her to start anything.

M: If she called you right now, would you go see her?

H: Yes, but not in the way you think. I just want to talk to her one last time, and see how she is. I will never be with her physically again.

I ended it there and changed the subject. I restated my position that I am ok with him staying at his dad's if he needs to. He cried a bit about how lost he feels, how he is a "F" up, and how much he messed up this summer. No real apology, but that's ok. He hates that he is leaving me hanging, knowing it hurts me, and that he sees I am trying my best, and really staying strong. We talked more about other things too. All in all, good talk, hard talk, but in no way have we decided anything. He said he knows its not what I want to hear, but he might stay a few nights here and there at his dad's for a bit longer. I was in support of it, but made it crystal clear that I would not tolerate him seeing anyone at all. He was surprised I brought that up, because he says he is so messed up, that's not even what this is about.

I feel worse today (cold-wise) than yesterday, but still enjoyed my birthday. Went to lunch with H's mom and some family. I have come a LONG way in that regard. Since the bomb, I couldn't even face them, because we haven't told anyone, but today was really nice.

I opened my three presents this morning. H laid them out for the girls to help me open them, saying "This one is from D3, this one is from D5, and this one is from...both of them." Two pairs of earrings (the girls picked out) and then one matching silver necklace, that H stated was from the girls, but they busted him saying "Daddy picked it out, and said you need a necklace to match your new earrings, he picked that". LOL

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Hey girlie.. that's great.. You are doing so so well.
Im so proud of how your handling things.. I think you have
him swirling!!

Let him keep quessing and im so glad you set boundaries!! Thats wonderful.. I know you don't want to jump the gun, but you are making progress and I know you will come out happy~~

TAL


me: 37
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Married for 18 years this june
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Happiness can be found, even in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light.
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Nice story lwb. Stay strong - those kids need you to be strong.

I have to say you are doing very well. You are showing husband that he has a "rock" in his life. These confused WAS's that we have need us all to be strong. Continue to be a beacon of stability and show him a well-lit path to sanity that he needs.

Stay strong.

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You are doing great LWB! Sounds like a good birthday for a sick person. What a crappy time to feel bad. But it's all so bittersweet. And you know that's the richest chocolate!

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tired, I wouldn't think swirling, but I think H is less angry these days, and knows he can approach me about R stuff without feeling smothered. I don't know if my boundary was necessary, but darnit, I had to put it out there.

Mark, Thanks. I feel like a rock these days. Man oh man, I would never want to be the cheater, the guilty one. I can see the disgust (for himself) in H's face when he talks of what he had done. I don't know if I could live that way, and I can sure understand why some run instead of facing their feelings!

Sara, thanks. I feel pretty darn positive today despite the fact I am so sick. \:\)

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