CAC, I wasn't talking about a ride, I was talking about having someone let you fly and they are present just as PIC to make it all legal. I realize it still isn't quite the same, but on the other hand it is better than sitting home stewing about what you've lost, KWIM?

I also get what you are saying. You are not ultimately responsible for the flight, and when the chips are down you can be sure that I'm going to take the airplane if things start going badly (it is my airplane, and my ticket after all). So yeah, sort of like going on the kiddie ride after being allowed to run the place.

Anyway, my point and I think Corri's is that while you can't have the one thing you wanted, you have a choice of either accepting that and finding something else that tickles your fancy or some way to work around the barrier, or you can sit and moan about the shitty hand you got dealt. As I've told S17, these are the cards you got dealt. You don't have to like them, You don't even have to play them, but if you don't you have no way of knowing what might come of them.