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If a man played football on Bear Bryant's team and said that his best skill as a player was that he was "coachable", what would that mean?

You know someone that played for Bear Bryant??!! He's one of the greatest. I used to keep one of his quotes on the wall at my office at work. My grandfather was a defense coordinator at a small college and also coached HS so I have a little bit of insight into coaching.

Anyway, if the guy was coachable, it would mean that first the guy can listen to the coach, hear what he is being told and translate that information into action. A guy can have a lot of talent but if he doesn't listen to the coach then he's not that useful to the team.

Coachable would definitely be a good trait in my mind!!

The guys who played or coached football can probably give you a lot more insight.




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Fearless,

Let me tell you something about myself. I have masters degree in Agricultural Economic from Texas A&M. I grew up in a small central Texas town of 10,000, where farming is the dominant industry. My father is a research entomologist with the US Dept of Ag. He works with farmers as his research has an impact on some of them. His wife is from an even smaller town, where her father runs a 400 acre farm, leasing another 400 acres. At one time he owned the local feed store and over the years has been able to support his family and stay in business, so as small farmers go, he is successful.

The fact of the matter is that if you do not operate 10,000 acres or more as a “corporate” farm, you will have a tough time making it. The produce generated by small farms is negligible. The small family farm is a dying breed but the taxpayer supports farmers more to help maintain a lifestyle than to ensure our food supply.

Some farmers have it together. Many others don’t. They drop out of high school and go into farming because they do not like being told what to do working for someone else, they do not want to learn a skill, they did not take school seriously and would have a hard time getting into college, or some other reason. Farming can be a form of escape for these people. I grew up with some of them. For those farmers who are really farmers and serious about becoming efficient and competitive, I have a lot of respect. But I do “get it” when it comes to farming.

As for “posers” on Harleys, we have some here in my office. These people are all middle aged professionals who have worked their whole life to raise kids and put them through school. Now that they have fulfilled their responsibilities, they have taken some money to buy a bike and enjoy themselves (some buying the junky Harleys and some buying Goldwings). I find that admirable. To call these people “posers” is a complete show of disrespect IMO. Many of the “true” bikers who take issue with the “posers” are actually blue collar workers who are NOT meeting their obligations, rather going off on their bikes, getting drunk and neglecting their families. I find NOTHING admirable in that.


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If a man played football on Bear Bryant's team and said that his best skill as a player was that he was "coachable", what would that mean? I have a feeling this is a man personality clue but I don't know how to interpret it.


Able to hear input/corrections without coming up with 15 different reasons why it doesn't apply to you. Of course it must start with an attitude that you don't already "know it all" or that you are perfect already with no need to ever considering personal changes or growth. Being coachable means being teachable - but that teaching usually has to come from someone highly respected.

Sportswise - it means that he played for a football legend and attended either the University of Alabama or Texas A & M. Bryant was one of the most "winningnest" coaches ever in college football. He was famous for his trademark black & white houndstooth hat and his ability to garner massive amounts of loyalty and efforts from the young men who played for him. For some folks in Alabama he's something of a demi-god.

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If a guy like young Cobra and I were dating, it would never be the case that he would think that I was a "slut" because I signaled something like that on our date. I dress sexy sometimes and I'll talk abstract sexuality with just about anyone but I have a certain physical reserve and the vocabulary of a librarian and I smile a lot.


Hee. I know what you mean. I deal with intimate aspects of people professionally and can talk about pretty much anything, physical or sexual, with a complete air of personal detachment. No one has ever misunderstood that to mean they could take liberties with me. Conservative types like me, in fact, and tended to ask me out a lot, even though we'd have been ill matched and I knew it even if they didn't.

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You know someone that played for Bear Bryant??!!


Lol- I have a date with him this afternoon. I was a teeny bit semi-terrified because he looks like the human equivalent of one of those giant scary dogs you might see behind a spikey iron fence, but then I thought that it must be hard to be a nice person but look like that and I chilled out.

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Able to hear input/corrections without coming up with 15 different reasons why it doesn't apply to you. Of course it must start with an attitude that you don't already "know it all" or that you are perfect already with no need to ever considering personal changes or growth. Being coachable means being teachable - but that teaching usually has to come from someone highly respected.


Okay, that sounds good \:\) So, I guess you guys are implying that maybe I should have known that the topic had switched from basketball to football when the name Bear Bryant was mentioned? I sense my father rolling in his grave. This is exactly the kind of thing that would make him mutter under his breath about having 4 daughters and no sons.


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Okay, I know nothing about sports so I have a question for those who do. If a man played football on Bear Bryant's team and said that his best skill as a player was that he was "coachable", what would that mean? I have a feeling this is a man personality clue but I don't know how to interpret it.


It means he has a sense of pride in himself (played for a legend), but also a sense of modesty. If he had instead gone on about how many TDs or record-breaking stats he had, then he might be a bit of a braggart. If someone says that someone else is "coachable", it means that they are not particularly good at the time, but show promise. Him saying it about himself was a bit of a self-dig, but not in a bad way, instead attempting to be modest about himself. KWIM?

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Ok, if that’s how you want to see it. I tend to think of some (not all) farmers as losers who can’t cut it in college or a competitive workplace, so instead they hop on a tractor and plow, then use the patriotic excuse of a love for the land, having an independent and rebellious spirit against authority which is part of the founding values of this country, yada, yada, yada.


Good grief man. Did some farmer boy kick your a$$ in a bar fight sometime in the past?

Most people who are farmers are that way because their parents were. And for them, not "making it" in the workplace is a complete non sequitor. They have no desire for the cubicle/office life, and sitting in classrooms listening to self-important professors drone on about philosophy, math, and american history is their idea of torture.

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(Cobra) To call these people “posers” is a complete show of disrespect IMO.

Says the guy who calls farmers "losers". Rationalization is your superpower.


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Farmers, swans, monkeys, bikers and Bears (named Bryant) - Oh my! It is so easy to get lost if one does not follow these things daily. Incidentally, much of my family is from Alabama originally (the Gulf Coast part) and MJ with an ex football player is an interesting pairing (kinda akin to the mythical Hank, I think). I will be interested to see how this one goes. Sounds fun and worth a look!

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Fearless,

This seemed like a pretty clear personal attack on me and my opinions. I didn't have to read between any lines to see that you don't understand me (because I don't fit the above description) and that you are sort of turned off by me.

First let me say that it was an “attack” on your opinion, but I don’t see anywhere that I attacked you personally. Why do you think it is “clear” that I attacked you?

As for your reading between the lines, you are making the assumption that I don’t understand you. I think I do. But I see things differently. What I have heard from you in the past does seem to be a feminist mantra, in that you think men should cater to a woman’s emotions to keep peace and cooperation in the marriage. Or perhaps you think both men and women should do so in order to keep the peace. (Recall this conversation surrounded whether you thought I was being insensitive in not wanting to talk at length with my wife about her work issues.)

So again my point was: I am trying to understand why you want me to answer all sorts of questions about myself given that I am not some one you "like" interacting with...

I never said I don’t like interacting with you (or should I say I do like interacting with you, in proper “Corri speak”). Perhaps what I sense from you is the need to please others and always smooth things over, to avoid hard feelings and in a covert way to convince others that your diplomatic, more accommodative POV is the right one. I sense there is more behind this than you just trying to understand others.

So I ask myself if this perception is true and if it is, then why? Over time I have come to believe that my perception has some merit. I haven’t been able to put together a hypothesis of why that is until just recently. So in some ways, if my suspicions have any merit at all, you present a very large challenge.


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