Not just councelling, setting a plan for lovemaking, sex and as I discovered something to deal with the coming of a period. That is a huge thing, or was for us.

Also, lovemaking or sex became a clinical task and later just a petrie dish or test tube in a way. Huge strain, and even if the affair cannot be blamed on the struggles as you say it impacts greatly and probably as is the case with having children so is the struggle to conceive for years on upon years a relationship changing experience.

I know I was not perfect and sometimes cynical when I saw all the procedures and percentages, I had a dream that my father said it will happen the natural way, and I shared that with my wife who said that I don't believe in any of the clinical stuff. Lots went on, and if anyone reads this, at least let your friends know that it is beyond traumatic and better to be pro active than part of this discussion forum if you know what I mean,

Lunchtime,

Henrik