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Ooh, and to make matters worse, its W's birthday on Sunday. I have bought sexy underwear and nightwear for her (that'll probably go down like a lead balloon) and some music.

Going to have to DB like mad and act 'as if' all weekend. So tired at the moment, this has been going on for 6 months and there is still no end in sight.


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Also need some advice on the W's bday card. Want to write a poem in it along the lines:

You ask me why I love you,
I only know I do,
You ask me why I married you,
Because of the love so true,
We have two beautiful children, that fill our hearts with pride,
For that I love you dearly and want you by my side.


It's how I feel about her, but don;t want to do anything that will turn her against me further. Lots of advice would be appreciated.


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First you say no more cuddling and asking for sex, and then you plan to give her a birthday gift of sexy underwear?? Do you not realize that gift is the same as asking for sex??

It probably WILL go over like a lead balloon. So why do it? Save that gift for another time, maybe even pull it out as a surprise when SHE is in the mood.

It seems to me you backed off the sex for a bit once before, and she was asking for it within a few days. Seems like she wants it, but would rather have the ability to diminish its importance by acting like she did you a favor or it was easier to let you have your way. So, I agree with you that backing off a bit is a good idea. But she won't want to be seen as pursuing you all the time, even just for sex. How about this: Wait for her to initiate the next time, then you can initiate again, once. Then wait for her again.


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Pamar,

I agree with my3sons if it goes back and forth then she won't feel pressure and you both will probably be in a more comfortable situation. I hadn't thought about it but I think I'm going to do the same thing; makes sense to me.


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Obviously its a bit contrived, but egos are fragile right now, and it might be a way forward.

I neglected to opine about the poem. If your W has gone for that sort of thing in the past, you might try it. Me, I would write something like the same sentiments in prose--rhyme and meter tend to get in the way when we're trying to be perfectly open with our feelings.

The way it reads now sounds like, "I married you because I love you and I love you because we have beautiful children." Which is of course utter nonsense, since you were married before the children.


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my3sons/lester,

Thanks for the advice - underwear going into bottom drawer, nightime clothes I think I'll be OK on.

I'll tweak the poem now and see if it reads better:

You ask me why I love you,
I only know I do,
You ask me why I married you,
Because of the love so true,
We now have two happy children, that fill our hearts with pride,
For that I love you dearly, mother, friend and bride.


I have done poems in the past, so this is nothing too different. As regards the sex angle, I think I'll cool it and wait - we have a holiday in Mallorca in October so that may be less stressful and fit in better.

Please still come back to me on the poem and the presents - one of the nightshirts says 'I need my space', so I'm trying to acknowledge that, the other is more jockey and says 'Grumpy but gorgeous'.


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SueS,

Just to prove we're not all gits, here's a <<<HUG>>> with no strings attached.


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Pamar....

I wish I could give my advice on what your W would be thinking, but not being in her position, it's tough.

I would love for my H to give me a poem like that. It's absolutely beautiful.

Have a wonderful weekend. Not sure if I'll be on or not.

SueS


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Okay....explain. What's a git....and thanks for the hug. Much needed.


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SueS

British version of a 'jerk' I suppose. Going to try and have a good weekend, if only for the kids.


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