cac: I'm just sayin...it would be easier if I had something to talk about that wasn't so obscure, and didn't require drawing diagrams.

So, are you saying that you don't care to draw diagrams? You don't want to take the time, it's too mentally taxing, you're too tired at the end of the day? What? Because, when you do take the time to explain something with a diagram, I do tend to understand it better and I'm less likely to get bored or lost.

I don't learn well through lecture. Never have. Of course in a classroom lecture, I was usually taking notes and drawing my own diagrams, which helped me to learn, at least long enough to get a decent grade on the test, which is another whole problem.

But just to have someone talking AT me, using words and concepts I may not understand, not always giving me the opportunity to ask a "so, in other words...." question to help my understanding, not always giving me the opporunity to say, "hold on there, you lost me, can we go back to when you said "X"....well, that isn't a conversation that will go well for me. My eyes *will* start to glaze over and I *will* start tuning out.

I quite often ask cac questions about things I don't understand, such as why the computer did a certain thing or why the car engine acted a certain way or some such thing. I do it because I *am* interested in how things work, in cause and effect, in patterns.

But inevitably, I will ask such a question and he will go off in lecture mode and he will lose me and I will try to get a time out to get back on track and he won't want to stop talking and then I'm trying to listen to him, only I'm not following him now, and I'm also trying to remember what I wanted to ask him, because I know I will forget it once he does stop talking, and of course, I do forget. Eventually I get the the point where I'm so lost that I just nod and say "umm hmm" and hope he doesn't ask me a question about it that I now can't answer.

just the other day, W informed me that "we" can't go to a party we were supposed to go to this weekend, because my parents ("the retired ones") are too busy to watch S4. I suggested that she could go herself, and I'll stay home w/ s4...she didn't seem very enthused about that.

To me, going to the party meant quality time with you. If I go alone, it's not quality time with you, it's time out with other adults. I have plenty of opportunities for time out with other adults. I don't have many opporunities to spend an evening out with you.