Frank I am very much aware that there is a root cause to this dysfunction and that it is not the alcohol. Hell just the other night my husband himself referred to alcohol as his "medicine". I get it. I've never been one to say "My husband is sick. He can't help himself". Bullcrap. He's just gotta wanna. But I do believe there is something to be gained by looking into Alanon/Alateen to help me and my kids. If nothing else, it's better than continuing to deny and enable 'cause that sure as hell hasn't gotten us anywhere and I have literally watched him climb further into the bottle over the last few months.