I think everyone here, minus cobra and lil, are being very unfair to Mrs. HD. IMHO.

Cobra and Lil: Well... at least Lil, cuz I've already apologized to Cobra for this... but Lil... I stuck you in my box version of Lil. And I apologize to you for that. I think, in so doing, I may have said some things to you that might have hurt you. If I did, I'm sorry. That was not my intent... but. Well, there you go. I did it. I'm sorry. And I will work on my spelling. \:\)

Cobra... now that I am trying very hard to remove the box I put you in, I can see you in an entirely different light... even your posts... and dam it man, you make me chuckle. A dog with a bone.... and I SOOOOO get that.... a la Lou.

Cac... sorry, Mrs. HD, I don't think, is a man-hater, and I think it highly unfair for you to label her so. You don't know her, you've never talked to her... we hear about her through HD... and though HD gets hurt by her (which sets us all off), there are also many, many things he loves about her.

IMHO... Mrs. HD is operating right now at DEVCON 20.3, and doesn't even KNOW it. While she is at that level, she is really hurting HD, which none of us like.

That does not mean she is a throw away, unredeemable person. You cannot fix what you cannot see. And she cannot SEE right now. It does not make one thing she does excusable. Not one. But HD is not ready to throw her away BCUZ he knows there are things that he has done in the past to contribute to her mess.

He wants to clean up his own mess before he thinks about throwing her away... as I see it, anyway. In her DEVCON 20.3 stage (and it may get way higher HD... probably will)... if she hits a boundary of his... and he will know it if it happens... all bets may be off. HD's call.

In my mind, Mrs. HD is doing nothing out of character, because it is very obvious to me SHE THINKS she is feeling threatened. She isn't, but she doesn't KNOW that. All she knows is what she feels. What has triggered those feelings is the change in HD. She doesn't KNOW that. It just feels the same to her.

And I'm sorry... when you are in a heightened state of emotion... no... you cannot rationalize. Even a sharp cookie like Mrs. HD.

Corri