IMP Actually I don't counsel - I just work with them, and watch them and support them. These are street people whose lives are horror shows, terible abuse. I don't do it because I am a nice person. I really like them! They are so honest about their failings. They know themselves, in a weird way. I don't like the programs unless the person REALLY wants to kick the habit. There can be too much pressure for the poor guys [mostly guys, sad to say] and then they feel like failures because they go back on the stuff [usually a mixutre of booze and whatever drugs they can lay their hands on. Some just drink.

About 5 people a year stop in our centre [and we deal with a floating population of up to 100]. But they tend to say stopped, and we don'tknow why. Sorry, this is rambling. I guess I am saying that the closer I get to any issue the less I feel I know.

Sorry for rambling threadjack - and I drink on a regular basis!!