Corri, LFL,

Cobra, as someone who has not been on the board too much recently but certainly has history with most of you, that comes off a little...creepy.

I'm not sure what it is you find creepy... maybe that I was compiling statistics on Corri's posts? If so, I have a reason for it. Simply saying that I think she was getting "giddy" is just an opinion that could not have anything behind it. The only way I could think of to back up my POV was to show the numbers to give some idea of what I thought I was seeing.

Now, the reason I made that post in the first place is not cut Corri down, but to put forth a possible explanation for what she was feeling. I did not get any sense of her frustration with GGB. If it was there I missed it. I did get a lot of frustration toward me. I think that is fairly easy to see. But I also know Corri is quite advanced in checking her emotional involvement and reactivity. So I was confused as to why she seemed to get getting so riled up. I was not getting upset at her comments at all.

I remembered that earlier in the week I felt she was really feeling "giddy" about some of the insights people were getting from her. All that is great, BUT, having grown up with a mother who used to swing back and forth in her moods, and having a wife who does the same, I saw a pattern emerging.

IMO, my mother and W both place blame on others for triggering some kind of disappointment that pushes emotions down, that hurts feelings, that invalidates somehow and causes resentment, anger, disappointment, etc. My experience is that this is not always the case. The setup for the downside is often in going too high to the upside. When my mother and W get too "giddy" it is almost inevitable that the downside is around the corner because "giddyness" can only go so high before it is unsustainable.

OTOH, if the same factors that "push" the downside were to come about when my mother and W's moods were more "baseline" the downside is very shallow. There is not as far to fall. So I try not to let things get too "high" if I can influence things at all.

I think people who have felt oppressed, subjugated, demeaned, whatever, either in their FOO or with an abusive spouse, and have suffered damage to their self esteem, can become "giddy" when they become the focus of lots of good validation. I have seen this many times. Let me be clear that I see nothing wrong with that per se. But when things turn down, it can be very confusing to that person to understand what has happened and it can be too easy to blame the invalidation coming from others or the excess involvement and caring of that person, which may or may not be the real problem. sometimes it is just a natural consequence of too high a swing in emotions. Just my 2 cents.


Cobra