Tryingtoholdon, I knew W was cheating. I just denied it to myself for a long time. When a friend asked whether I thought she was, I responded "I really don't know and what does it matter, either way I have to continue doing what I'm doing to save the M, so really, I don't need to know" I knew, my gut told me so. The way she treated me changed and so did her demeanor when she returned from being out. It was obvious. Hope this helps.