HW,
Yeah, that's more along my lines. In fact, this morning when I first saw this thread, I almost posted:

Loonyqt meet Cemar. Cemar, meet Loonyqt.

They seem to both be cut from the same, "it couldn't be my fault" cloth. Although I think LQ might actually take some of the advice to heart if she backs down long enough to digest some of it. Cemar, well, I think he's a lost cause.