Root,
I will keep these thoughts in mind and emphasize them more as I talk with DDs.
Thanks.

DD12 and I talked this morning.
She said that she (and DD8) feel safer, more cared for, more cared about, better fed, etc. w/me. She said they didn't feel that way as much at mom's. Her volunteered statements. Mentioned mom keeps disappearing when they are over there. Mom's got other things to do. Leaves with friends when they are there. Hmmmmm... I try not to read to far into this.

On these posts, I've not mentioned too much of what I'm about to say. But maybe it's time to mention this. I will not elaborate on what I'm about to say. I don't want my kids to know about this. I'd think it would be devasting for them:

In this nitemare she has told a couple of people (including her sister, the one I refer to as SIL) that she was embarresed of our children. She made derogratory remarks about them. Very derogratory remarks. Very unkind remarks. I wish I'd written all that was said as to document it. I was shocked to say the least to hear this. Never, ever would I have thought such things could come from her lips.

SIL had kept saying to me during the heat of this nitemare to just take the kids and leave. "F**ck her," she said. "Get your kids and get out of here". I was like, ?????? This is her sister saying this to me.

Like I said, this whole thing is just crazy.

BoB ;\)