thanks for your replies Braveheart and angelica, so is what you are saying to me is that he is not in fact happy with his new life and that is why he has to turn back and slip a little nastiness our way? I know for a fact this man cannot be happy with what he as done, the one man I thought would never turn his back on his only child as indeed done that, and I do believe that the day we move out of his damn house he is going to have to come in and prepare to sell it, how will he handle that I don't know, he couldn't even prepare his father's house to sell, I had to do it, but I can tell you now there is no way I shall leave this place all ready to make him a few pounds. He is happy with leaving us, he is happy with putting us on the streets, he is happy not having a relationship with his son and he is also very happy leaving us with no money for the last two and half years, so in his new found happiness let he and his delightful wife prepare his property for sale, after all said and done it will be those two that get to spend the money. I sometimes wonder if he ever actually feels that what he is doing is right and if he ever actually misses the good times we had taking son out on trips etc, its one thing walking out it is another thing turning your back completely on your young.