"Quote: Tell him counselling is a condition of staying together. If he cares about you as much as he says he does, he will do this for YOU and for your R"
"Been there done that for a year. I don't believe he'll go. "
Yep, that is one reason why something like Retrouvaille really might be something to consider -- it is different and it *may* get some fast movement in your M depending on what the underlying issues are. And, at least right now, on the face of it, you both still care about preserving the M.
