DaveJ, those moments are the very best one can experience and yes its extremely emotional. It hurts to know that the children are so innocent of all the crap that is occuring during the M & R. They are not at fault and are in between the tug of war. If only God can make miracles happend, do it for us. If we had done wrong and have asked for absolution, then we hold no grudge. We admit our faults and are working on making ourselves better. Why cant our W's see this in light of all the selfishness, anger and hate they see.

Why cant our W's turn to God and ask why did their H's acted the way they did and now they are making changes? Why cant the W's just forgive us and start the healing process?

I just got off the phone with my W and we spoke of D's pre-K. W asked if my church has a Pre-K and I said yes. I told her I already was going to suggest this to her but hesitated since I didnt want her to say because its my church I want D to go there. Now, W is the one who asked and I made the call to get some information. This is God sent! I wanted this to happend in that eventually W can go to church with D and I as a family. I would really hope W agrees on this Pre-K.

See the W, Listen to the W, but dont Speak back to the W. Bridle your tongue...