Burgbud:

Is that something you're willing to try, Cemar? Masturbation without porn or fantasy, just for the sake of making yourself feel good?
I MB every day, most days several times. Heck, easily 99% of the sex I have, my wife isn't even present. Not sure what the point is here though. Orgasams are nice. But why compare MB with passionate sex? That apples and oranges, there is absolutely not comparison. Desire is the goal. Even if we say that sex is NOT being used for validation, the feeling of having passionate sex with a truly desirous women is impossible to replicate in any other way. So what would MB do?