Hee Hee, yeah a chip off the old block I suppose, at least as far as the horniness goes. The difference is the access: the girls these days seem a lot more casual about having sex than they were in my day. Anyway, the degree of fusion he is showing is so over the top that it is sickening. I suppose one can't see how unattractive it is until you see someone else who's got it worse than you though, KWIM? Actually, his hormones aren't really what is driving us nuts, rather it is that he apparently inherited Corri's old queen of the universe chair and won't get his buttocks out of it to save his own skin. He's supposed to be looking at colleges and looking for any scholarships that might be available to him (He's starting his senior year). he hasn't done that, sabatoged himself when he took the SAT and is refusing to take an SAT prep course or retake the SAT. Yesterday we told him that once he turns 18, if he isn't enrolled full time in school (excepting summer breaks), then he pays rent. You'da thought we told him he couldn't see his GF ever again. He's got an air of entitlement like you wouldn't believe, and he isn't willing to pitch in even on his regular chores (cleaning one bathroom, helping out with kitchen clean-up, and maintaining the pool). He feels he is old enough that he's somehow graduated from having chores. Seems like we are spending a good 75% of our time on him. The 14 yo, in contrast has always gone out of his way to lend a hand, almost to a fault. how we get two such radically different personalities from the same genes and same upbringing is one of the seven wonders of the world, I am sure.