I know you really helped me with the detaching. I have read it over and over. I know my H said the same things and then I still looked for the little bit of hope. He still calls and talks to me like there is nothing wrong and their is no OW. SO I was on the roller coaster ride of hoping and being disappointed. I am now figuring out I need to detach for my own health. And to see what life will bring. My H doesn't want to be the one woho files because of being the bad guy so we will see. I see what runningouof time is saying and I know they will all regret it when it all done. I have friends that got divorced and in a few years they said they wish they has worked on it harded. At this point in their lives they are in such a fog that they can't see it or reason about it. So all we can do is bethere for ourselves and the kids. I like the idea of the chocolate Martini they are good.......DO stuff for you....I am always here.